Invited is a robust Oz-Report-realm study and discussion
of the eight Paresev pilots, a special group of test pilots
who dared to fly hanging beneath framed rag with weight-shift control over
concrete, waters, buildings, people, sand, and grass.
As many of us do today, they used some various means of tow launch and
then released for practicing their hang gliding.
Some of their flight glides were from releases at 10,000' ASL. Others were
lower. None were killed in the program.
A fitting topic thread deeply exploring and honoring these eight test
pilots is something
that seems fitting for theHang
Glidingsector
of The Oz Report. Be a part of this legacy display; find something and
post it in a manner that gives honor to the way these guys served
aviation. Many of them are into the Next Thermal;
tell their story and note their legacy. Who is still living? There is
opportunity for hundreds of Oz Report posters
to brighten our sector's respect of these pilots.
Each one has a rich story.
Maybe pick one and input something about him. Bring forward interesting
parts of their
experiences before, during, and after their hang gliding flights.
The information is not all on the Internet; we hope someone or several
will go physically to some of the archives and extract information,
images, dates, logs, memos, etc.
Paresev::
"Paragliderresearchvehicle"
came in light and heavier versions with many variations in the wing.
The wing in glider format was often called a "paraglider" and one would
note the difference of emphasis in contemporary popular use
of that term; these guys used the foldable four-boom airframed flex-wing
hang glider wing, not the unstiffened canopy gliding wing.
Each variant from first to last is invited to be subject matter for this
hang gliding history excursion. The Paresev came
midway in hang gliding history, respecting the late 1800s test pilots and
sportsmen and sportswomen, on up to today.
[A minor use is found for this acronym forming: Paresev (Paraglider Rescue
Vehicle) ]
The hang glider pilots open for our attention:
As yet, we do not know of Hetzel, but the other seven have gone into the
Next Thermal.
== Milton Orville Thompson, NASA FRC
== Robert Apgar Champine, NASA LRC
== Neil Armstrong, NASA FRC
== Bruce A. Peterson, NASA FRC
== Charles Hetzel, North American Aviation
== Maj. Emil “Jack” Kluever, U.S. Army
== Donald K. "Deke" Slayton, NASA MSC
== Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom, NASA MSC
====Sometimes one will see the misspelling of "Para…" while the program
set of hang gliders was "Paresev" with emphasis on "research". The
variants included some low-mass undercarriages and some larger-massed
payloads as one of the aims was to carry larger payloads. A different
program parallel to these hang gliders was done by Ryan Aeronautical. And
John Worth did some hang glider work for NASA; those two arenas are
separate topics. The parasol wing --often termed "parawing" (with some
confusion by later use of the term) with hung-mass (universal joint,
tension-hold of payload) within the Paresev program with focus on the
pilots along with the variant details are the hoped foci of this thread.
Recall that FAI is just one private org with their own specific limited
objectives; their very limited definitions do not limit the larger
aviation technology. Hang gliders come in a great rich variety. Some
ducklings born with one sort of hang glider might be fixated with that one
sort as the mother; however, aviation technology has a category that sees
hang glider more broadly than just one duck's luck. Hopefully Oz Report
posters will form the single best collection of data, drawings, images,
facts, stories, etc. over the fullness of the Paresev pilots and crafts …
than any other collection. It is a good time to get the story robust and
available for the future generations. Have fun doing your positive part!
====Sometimes one will see the misspelling of "Para…" while the program
set of hang gliders was "Paresev" with emphasis on "research". The
variants included some low-mass undercarriages and some larger-massed
payloads as one of the aims was to carry larger payloads. A different
program parallel to these hang gliders was done by Ryan Aeronautical. And
John Worth did some hang glider work for NASA; those two arenas are
separate topics. The parasol wing --often termed "parawing" (with some
confusion by later use of the term) with hung-mass (universal joint,
tension-hold of payload) within the Paresev program with focus on the
pilots along with the variant details are the hoped foci of this thread.
Recall that FAI is just one private org with their own specific limited
objectives; their very limited definitions do not limit the larger
aviation technology. Hang gliders come in a great rich variety. Some
ducklings born with one sort of hang glider might be fixated with that one
sort as the mother; however, aviation technology has a category that sees
hang glider more broadly than just one duck's luck. Hopefully Oz Report
posters will form the single best collection of data, drawings, images,
facts, stories, etc. over the fullness of the Paresev pilots and crafts …
than any other collection. It is a good time to get the story robust and
available for the future generations. Have fun doing your positive part!
Ken, the topic is not your JD thing, not a study of the 1948 patent, not
confined to what you were born with into hang gliding, not confined to
just one org's view of activity, and not a voting contest of those who may
not see a PG as a hang glider, etc. Have a wing, hang a mass from it, set
it gliding and have fun doing it or not… do the hang gliding … in model,
inhabited, uninhabited, etc. and still do hang gliding. Change
undercarriages from the tensional hold to the 1908 cable-stayed A-frame
(triangle control frame) or to parallel bars for arm-pit hold or parallel
bars for forearm hold for special devices as John Worth built in 1960-62,
and a host of other undercarriages for niche hang gliding activity,
perhaps for the physically challenge, etc. …all hang gliders before you
started hang gliding. Do you have something for us about one or more of
those eight hang glider pilots for the treasure to be built here? Hang
gliding activity has a host of niche activities and formats well beyond
what the FAI faces; and this thread is not confined to any tiny corner of
hang gliding, except the Paresev corner. Was the six-person flight by Bob
Wills a hang gliding flight; yes. After kiting the Paresev configuration …
after release…the system became a paraglider (in terms used then for that
which is beyond glider…the mass hung… hang glider type). No power after
release from the kiting mode. Hang gliders may weigh 500 tonnes or 1 gram;
and sport may be had in the spirit in those realms. Anyone for a
100-person hang glider? Start a topic on that. All are invited to focus on
these 8 hang glider pilots who raised the bar for hang gliding to 10,000
ft ASL, higher than earlier hang gliding efforts. Let's focus on their
legacy and stories strongly as we might; let Oz Report be the winning
holder of such respect and focus. The various other topics that are
interesting deserve their own topic threads; go for that, thanks to Davis
and his program here.
Wish I knew which of the 8 hang glider pilots was being kited in this
video:
Maybe someone can get into the archives physically and identify the exact
date and name and time of day ,etc. of the kited subject of this video:
Paresev Air Tow from Rogers Dry Lake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V74dXjTo-CE
This clip shows the kiting stage of the launch of the hang glider.
If anyone can identify the specifics for this exact flight, then that
would be neat; thanks in advance!
Of the near 400 flights and very many variants, it would be neat to get a
comprehensive Timeline on the Paresev flights; and identify which one is
the clipped one here.
Have fun helping on the research and posting.
Note: Many variants of craft carried the "1-A" partial title. Be open to
similar many-variants under "1-B" and "1-C". There were in total many more
variants than three, though covering title might lead one to think just
three. Once the Oz Report thread is rich and robust, then the count and
specifics should become more clear. I do not have the secret answer; much
help is needed for this happy project.
Note: A further challenge awaits helpers: Paper-prints from negatives
would receive filing dates and captions that have errors of fact. And that
placard and N number for "1-A" will be found on some "1-B" notations. When
robust story is up, some of those discrepancies may be cleared. Any little
bit may help.
Someone might choose to tackle this supportive sub-project:
Who is in the hang glider? Place? Date? What exact variant of the kite
hang glider of the Paresev program is shown in the clip.
The full video from which the clip was taken prevents embedding; so, to
view, go to the URL shown in the graphic; thanks.
Title of the video:Flexible
Paraglider Wing Research and Development
Careful typing of the URL shown will reach the video that has in it some
Paresev matter.
Thanks in advance for anyone tacking the detail for this clip.
http://youtu.be/Xkf1zOGskmc
Milt Thompson, one of the 8 hang glider pilots on some day _________ in
the sunshine:
This variant's undercarriage was not the lightest and not the heaviest
of the variants of the many Paresev hang gliders. The program's aim was
flight practice and they wanted to protect the valuable human involved
in the gliding's landing and taking-off experience. Someone from Oz
Report will finally show the lightest of the protecting undercarriage;
this is not it. Here we have Milt Thompson. Full story on him is invited
by others. Many things can be discussed about this particular variant of
the wing. Notice the N number. Notice the thing in front of the
noseplate of the hang glider wing. Notice the foldability of the hang
glider wing. And more. Help open up the story. Thanks.
During study of variants, one can notice different undercarriage truss
structures, different choices of wheels … to help clue.
Eventually this topic thread will probably be able to place the date of
the photo; paper-print captions are often incomplete and have been known
to contain errors.
The following text (as all) may have some correctable statements in it;
such may be sorted by anyone; thanks. The following is a quote and a
video:
The tiny 37-sec clip shows release into free-flight hang
gliding after the kited launch; the clip indicates Milt forcing changes
in the relative position of his body mass to the wing's attitude; there
is no power on board except gravity pulling the masses through aerial
inclines; his body mass is hung and the hanging member is in tension and
the connecting point at the keel is angularly variable during the
weight-shift control of the Paresev's wing.
An enlarged view of Milt's pose on the tarmac is here for detail study:
http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/3/cdf57e47-acdd-4a58-b399-bfc952ebdd63.Full.jpg
The resolution will let us get very close to many details on the wing as
well.
A backup copy is saved:http://energykitesystems.net/Paresev/FullMiltThompsonOnTarmac.jpg
Anyone? Proof of day of the photo? Photographer? Time of day? Position
on what tarmac? N number? Variant? Discussion of the safety
undercarriage? Etc. Thanks. Feel fun to clip details from the photo to
add to the discussion.
THE OZ REPORT program shows the low resolution file copy in Oz Report
and also the backup high resolution copy that may be enlarged for detail
clipping.
Heavy communications device for this experimental hang glider session!
Compare with today's low-mass cell phones. This is a clip from the same
photo featured in this post.
Close clip from same main photo. Milt Thompson.
On same photo of Milt Thompson on tarmac, here for discussion is a hang
glider detail from the photo concerning the aft keel-sail attachment:
Hang glider detail of keel and sail at aft end of keel tube.
How did that part work? Anyone?
Archive memos might be interesting over this part.
Anyone care to specially expand on the shown parts? What functions might
be indicated by each part? How does that hang glider instrument compare
with
how similar functions might be handled on many of 2012 hang glider
systems? Someone might reach archive notes on the shown hang glider part
to see if the apparent open-face tube is a pitot tube for helping to
measure pressures. Thanks for any help on this.
The abstract of the Milt Thompson post above has something about car
parts.
The variant picture was clipped to give this study detail on the hang
points that permitted the tensionally-held pilot to move his massleft-or-rightorfore-or-aft.
The hang line is stiffened compared to the simple lines used in 1908 in
Breslau hang glider (as is most common in many of today's hang gliders),
but the hang-line-stiffened member served the immediate experimental
purposes. Expensive precious cargo here … exploring.
Full specification and memos about the hang joint in this variant of the
hang glider
that gave a universal direction capability is invited on the part. Anyone?
Maybe some old timer can get into the depths of the archives or some new
young scholar ---???
[ ] So, maybe in Oz Report there is someone who is a car buff and can
supply detail of the1948
Pontiacpart
involved in the hang glider's hang-point joint? Thanks for help.
Just posted is that we know that seven of the eight hang glider pilots of
the PARESEV program have passed to the NEXT THERMAL.
First man to walk on the Moon died last week on the 25th of August: Neil
Armstrong, hang glider test pilot;
others of the eight passed before, except: Hetzel? We do not know about
Hetzel.
Anyone might pick that question as a special help. Thanks. Ken, maybe you
have the fact? Anyone?
Going further now, this post, after confirming that at least 7 of the 8
Paresev hang glider pilots have passed and we await someone coming up with
vital facts for Hetzel,
here is some further content on one of the variants of the long series of
hang gliders made and flown in the PARESEV program:
The hang space frame and undercarriage accounted for the bulk of the mass
involved. Verification of the mass involved as to such is the all-up mass,
etc., and the distributions of mass is a sub-project someone might
volunteer for. There may be errors on mass reporting; mixing up the masses
of variants is something to be studied. Recall that the all-up mass of one
of Wills Wills hang glider flights in Mexico was approximately (on the low
guess end) 720 lb or more.
Neil Armstrong left us last week, but as his family requests: when we look
up at the Moon, recall Neil and all he meant to us and his values.
In light of that, I can see Neil extended into Moon City doing hang
gliding using the same wing that he used for some of his Paresev hang
glider flights.
Steve,would
you be interested in running the calculations for the sink rate in Moon
City using the wing of 150 sq. ft with a payload of Earth sea level weight
of pilot of say 180 lb all up (the weight would be about what… 1/6 at Moon
City indoors… so about 30 lbMoonweight for Neil and then for that Rogallo
parawing used in some of the Paresev hang glider flights on Earth? Similar
1/6 for say an aluminum tubing version of the same wing airfoil…maybe wing
at Moon pounds of what, about 48/6= 8 moon pounds; or whatever you come up
with. Thanks in advance if you run the numbers. I do not see the body mass
of Neil at his younger age when he did his first Paresev hang glider
flights. That would be an interesting PARESEV discussion note, Steve, I
guess.
[ ] Maybe someone can find the Earth body weights of all the 8 pilots in
focus at the time that they did the gliding flights. Thanks in advance.
John, there seems to be a video set. Exploring the various videos brings
the human doll holding the control bar on a hang glider in the hangar or
workroom. That stiff control bar was like the basebar of the Breslau
triangle control frame or A-frame of 1908 in the gliding club then
(short hauled pilot, hung from keel of hang glider)…just like is most
common in today's hang gliders.
Preliminary Investigation of
Paraglider.video.
Such 1959c. Rogallo spawnings were preliminary investigations that gave
confidence in late 1961 for the quick decision to do the pilot hang
gliding practice on stiffened paraglider hang gliders in the PARESEV
program. Such program was SEPARATE from the North American, Ryan, and
Goodyear and other contracts over the paraglider hang gliders. Thanks
for the link on the book; in the wish list, I have started some
invitations over clips from that long book; much hang glider history is
involved in the Gemini program. Perhaps a separate topic thread for the
North American early paraglider hang gliders, as this thread has a large
chunk to chew to get up the stories of the 8 hang glider pilots that
actually glided the stiffened-boom hang glider wing and its many
variants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLA4B4DD906F792BB9&v=_U9oOggcWdE&feature=player_embedded
In a few visits to the video, I seem to get served sometimes a different
video than the one you mentioned. Exploring will get one to the human
doll with control bar paraglider hang glider. The first glider launch is
by Francis Rogallo, but other launches in the video show other people …
with payload the model Gemini vehicle.
The film you mentioned, Haig, had a frame that read:"Flim
Supplement to NASA TN D-443"of
publication dateAugust
1960, with 28 pages,which
is here adjoined within Oz Report space: