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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21094 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Project REACH

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21095 From: dave santos Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: StratoSolar

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21096 From: dave santos Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: Project REACH

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21097 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: Photo - Google Photos; Stretch Kites

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21098 From: dave santos Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: Photo - Google Photos; Stretch Kites

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21099 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: Minesto news

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21100 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Energized community: Guatemala

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21101 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: MEET THE MAKANI ENERGY KITE

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21102 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: MEET THE MAKANI ENERGY KITE

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21103 From: dave santos Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: MEET THE MAKANI ENERGY KITE

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21104 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Cleaning or drying ropes patent

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21105 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: French Kite Aerial Photography Unit, WWI

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21106 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Lieutenant Nares' Life Kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21107 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: World Kite Museum, November 3, 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21108 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: "Corderie Vallois"

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21109 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: "Corderie Vallois"

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21110 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Romancing the Thread: the Story of Dyneema®

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21111 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Some Lines from France

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21112 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21113 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: Popular Mechanics of March 2011

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21114 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Emily Duncan wrote in Popular Science

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21115 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21116 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21117 From: dave santos Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: World Kite Museum, November 3, 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21118 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: http://twingtec.ch/ TwingTec

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21119 From: dave santos Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Re: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21120 From: dave santos Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Re: [AWES] Romancing the Thread: the Story of Dyneema®

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21121 From: dave santos Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Carbon Nano Kites

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21122 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Re: Carbon Nano Kites

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21123 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: Carbon Nano Kites

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21124 From: dave santos Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Hoffman's AWES concept for NASA Tech Briefs 2010 Contest

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21125 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: Laddermill page addition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21126 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: Hoffman's AWES concept for NASA Tech Briefs 2010 Contest

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21127 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Dual Mode Portable Charger US 20080272733 A1

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21128 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: Minesto news

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21129 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: Uwe Fechner

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21130 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Bulletin of Atomic Scientist

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21131 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Makani video circa 2010

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21132 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Low-Altitude Energy Kite Systems (LAEKS)

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21133 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: An estimate about Scotland

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21134 From: dave santos Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: An estimate about Scotland

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21135 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: J-Model for Kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21136 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21138 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
Subject: Re: Photo - Google Photos; Stretch Kites

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21139 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21140 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21141 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
Subject: Two patents by John D. Bellacera

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21142 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/7/2016
Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21143 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/7/2016
Subject: Closed loop experiment on indoors carousel

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21144 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/7/2016
Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21094 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Project REACH

Project REACH

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"On 31 May 2016, the official kick-off meeting of the REACH project took place at the faculty of Aerospace Engineering"

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"Enevate B.V. is the technical coordinator of the project and will integrate the developed kite system, market and sell it. The goal is to have the first commercial prototype of the E100 – the name of the 100 kW kite power system – within two years, and to sell it within three."

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 Enevate, B.V. is distinct from a different entity Enevate (advanced Lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery company)

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 Another entity of similar name involved with electric cars: Enevate of http://www.enevate.eu/   

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Here is the energy-kite Enevate B.V. 

https://www.enevate.nl/


Partners: 

Genetrix

TU Delft

Maxon Motor GmbH


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"Enevate B.V. is a commercial spin-out of the kite power research group of TUD and a first time industry applicant. Enevate is funded by the EU horizon 2020 Fast Track to Innovation program."

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  "Co-funded by the Horizon 2020 Framework Programme of the European Union"

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"hiring electrical engineer"

Also found a note indicating possible opening for control engineer.

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"founded 2015"

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How is project REACH going?   Notes? Challenges? News? Solutions?


 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21095 From: dave santos Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: StratoSolar
More background info than the company website offers, including a video. The impression is of a serious start-up by elite seasoned tech managers, but that the tremendous technical challenges will delay rapid commercialization-
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21096 From: dave santos Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: Project REACH
Below is the link to TUDelft's Reach page.

Project Reach, a partnership of TUD and start-up Enevate, represents the modern academic-business model of commercialization of engineering-science; but its difficult to balance good science against quick profit. Long-term global engineering-science typically leads to superior solutions that leave small premature commercializations behind, because they had to down-select an architecture for manufacture.

Here we have a 100kW reeling AWES aimed at the same hypothethetical target market as several other similarly well-funded and staffed EU AWE ventures, but no explanation of how the competition will be addressed. From a business perspective, Roland and Wubbo's 2007 reeling AWES patent seems to offer key IP security, but from the domain engineering perspective, there is no essential inventive leap or blocking feature. Outsiders expected to see more merger/acquisition activity to consolidate EU value, but the national and regional cultures apparently still tend toward deep factionalization, especially in the current social climate.

The science uncertainty is over reeling itself as an AWES technical dependence. We still await necessary reliability statistics from many AWES ventures making grand claims. All reeling players may find themselves left out of the game if other architectures take firm hold. The great news is for anyone new to AWE; that the field is still "wide-open", because no early major player has clearly hit on an ideal combination of engineering elements and business conditions-
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21097 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: Photo - Google Photos; Stretch Kites
Core document by Peter A. Sharp on 
PDF
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21098 From: dave santos Date: 11/1/2016
Subject: Re: Photo - Google Photos; Stretch Kites
Hi PeterS,

The closest AWES rigs to Stretch Kites are probably AWElabs's designs. kPower and KiteLab Group have done many kinds of three converging line "tri-tether" transmissions that exploit rigger's angles for high load velocity, without needing pulleys except as a fairlead to to the ground-based PTO. Many working prototypes have exploited the line-angles principle. A close conceptual model is a bow-string drawn by another string (with no arrow), with strong mechanical advantage evident, a real step-up transmission of either velocity or tension, by string geometry alone. The Earth's surface itself is used as primary spreader structure by many related variants.

Once again, your intuition is in nice accord with both theory and practice known to us. AWElabs and kPower are both Austin AWE ventures, with a close similarity in key approaches, Below is the link to USAWElabs, since you probably already know something about kPower and KiteLab string-angle work. Specific Stretch Kite aspects are found scattered in many papers, message-posts, videos, and so on,

daveS





On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 4:56 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Core document by Peter A. Sharp on 
PDF
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21099 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: Minesto news

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21100 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Energized community: Guatemala

Giant kites kites to celebrate the dead


Energized community
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21101 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: MEET THE MAKANI ENERGY KITE
Makani  video set    (ten to date)
Makani

 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21102 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: MEET THE MAKANI ENERGY KITE
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21103 From: dave santos Date: 11/2/2016
Subject: Re: MEET THE MAKANI ENERGY KITE
GoogleX/Makani faces a deep corporatist predicament. So far its been easy for boosters to cherry-pick happy footage of Google Minions doing cool AWE experiments, like the ten videos JoeF linked. We used to have to figure out from those videos where the Makani test sites were, which shifted around the Bay Area like secret SAM missile sites. We learned of crashes from documentary evidence, but never saw the crash videos. That was then. 

Today, with the ungainly M600 prototype comparable in wingspan to a 737, crazily supposed to fly from the start near one major highway that crosses the Big Island in Hawaii, there will be no hiding of epic-scale failure. How sad GoogleX may choose not to push bad (if not totally hopeless) odds, for fear of quasi-Hindenburg imagery eternally defining its entire "MoonShot Factory". 

Makani could have followed Chris Carlin's sensible advice to test at Edwards AFB, where toxic crashes are traditionally relegated, but at least finely crafted M600s may survive as museum pieces, as Google moves its promotional narrative on...





On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:15 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21104 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Cleaning or drying ropes patent

Cleaning and drying ropes


IPPOLITO MASSIMO

WO2015092821 (A1)  -  DEVICE FOR CLEANING/DRYING ROPES

tag: KiteGen, Kite Gen, 

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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21105 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: French Kite Aerial Photography Unit, WWI

French Kite Aerial Photography Unit, WWI

French Kite Aerial Photography Unit, WWI
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21106 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Lieutenant Nares' Life Kite

Lieutenant Nares' Life Kite



[[ Save the energy in a human life for future actions.  JpF ]]


See paragraph and drawing on topic at page HERE.


See also: https://doverhistorian.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/th-lieutenant-george-life-kite-from-land-lt-g-s-nares_-seamanship.jpg
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21107 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: World Kite Museum, November 3, 2016

This photo reminded me of what may be taking place today at the World Kite Museum (reports later): 


http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/images/cody_and_kites_1899_500.jpg
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21108 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: "Corderie Vallois"
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21109 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: "Corderie Vallois"
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21110 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Romancing the Thread: the Story of Dyneema®

Romancing the Thread:

the Story of Dyneema®

Story of Dyneema® | Our Story

 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21111 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Some Lines from France
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21112 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

=======================================

This question was put to Google Search today. 

Here is the answer Google Search gives:  HERE

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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21113 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: Popular Mechanics of March 2011
March 2011 issue of Popular Mechanics held the article: 
How Flying Turbines Will Change Wind Power

 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21114 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Emily Duncan wrote in Popular Science

Airborne Wind Power

Emily Duncan

April 22, 2016

Airborne Wind Power
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21115 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?

Search Results

Energy kite set to launch early next year | West Hawaii Today

westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/energy-kite-set-launch-early-next-year
Oct 2, 2015 - Following a year of flight and testing, representatives of the R&D company Makani are hopeful that they'll be closer to having a commercially ...
You've visited this page 2 times. Last visit: 11/3/16

Makani sets sights on Kohala site for new wind project | West Hawaii ...

westhawaiitoday.com/news/local.../makani-sets-sights-kohala-site-new-wind-project
Oct 9, 2014 - An article about the Makani project implied it is outside of Google. It is a project within Google X. Company officials prefer the phrase energy ...

Makani: Wind kite not a hazard to aircraft | West Hawaii Today

westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/makani-wind-kite-not-hazard-aircraft
Nov 6, 2014 - A team of representatives from the research and development company Makani spent Wednesday evening in Waimea assuring pilots that an .
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21116 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?
Readers and Members, you may ask questions directly to Google Makani via their communications form online at https://www.solveforx.com/makani/about/
Scroll to the page bottom for the contact form. 

 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21117 From: dave santos Date: 11/3/2016
Subject: Re: World Kite Museum, November 3, 2016
Yes, Mothra3 was born today, at almost100ft Wingspan, midwifed by the ancestral kites of the world, in the large second-floor gallery of the World Kite Museum. Layout went smoothly by suspending the loadpath rope from rafters at each end of the building to define a perfect catenary, and then using a plumb-bob to loft and cut bridle-lines to precise lengths, with soft-shackles handily integrating the pieces. Tomorrow's weather looks flyable; if a bit strong and maybe too exciting for a maiden flight. A new "hands-off" controlled launch method will be tried, and multi- kill-system tested, on video.

 After a century lapse, Flying Cathedrals rise again.


On Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:11 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
This photo reminded me of what may be taking place today at the World Kite Museum (reports later): 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21118 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: http://twingtec.ch/ TwingTec

".ch" ????  Corey Houle wants to know China better; he aims to explore opportunities for TwingTec in China and elsewhere.  Corey's AWE start year: 2008.   He was at Chico HAWP 2009. 

["Corey Houle | co-founder and CTO

Corey was trained as a mechanical engineer in Canada before moving to Switzerland in 2007 to work at FHNW as a research engineer. With the support of Professor Burtscher he was able to combine his passions for kite surfing and renewable energy and started working on kite power in 2009 and was responsible for the formation of the SwissKitePower group. He has held technical positions in a number of companies including Westport Innovations, Robert Bosch GmbH and Crosswind Power Systems. Corey is responsible for TwingTec’s product development and marketing and business development activities and sits on TwingTec’s board of directors."]


TwingTec | Wind Energy 2.0


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TwingTec Video 2016

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Team:  TwingTec | Team

 

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ECO16 Berlin: Rolf Luchsinger TwingTec


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venture leaders China 2015: Meet Corey from Twingtec


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AWEC 2013 - Swiss Kite Power

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Their news page: 

TwingTec | Wind Energy 2.0
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21119 From: dave santos Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Re: What is the status of the Makani energy kite test in Hawaii?
JoeF,

I tried this contact portal some months ago, but got no reply. Damon had been somewhat responsive via intermediary contact (AWE Documentary), privately more concerned that he was held in scorn in AWE wider circles than confident in pending Makani success. Fort simply disappeared from easy access, which began while he was still at NREL, where before he was very accessible. Cathy Zoi also disappeared as a public figure, but these two former public servants are at least better paid by GoogleX.

Depending on what Makani claim is recalled, from 2011 on, the M600 is anywhere from three years to a year overdue to fly. We seem to be seeing the specific predictions upheld that the M600 was simply too complex and overweight to fly safely, and may not fly at all, because its engineering program ignored some of the most basic AE principles, like KIS and toxic excess-mass.

Lets be careful not to obsess over no news from Makani, as their apparent failure and limitations are far less illuminating than better AWES architectures that continue to advance. Even if the M600 somehow pulls off an all-modes session, its low robustness, insane cost structure, and relatively low net power do not predict a bright future for "High-Risk" "High-Complexity" AWE,

daveS


On Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:15 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Readers and Members, you may ask questions directly to Google Makani via their communications form online at https://www.solveforx.com/makani/about/
Scroll to the page bottom for the contact form. 

 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21120 From: dave santos Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Re: [AWES] Romancing the Thread: the Story of Dyneema®
Very nice historical background about our magical modern kite line. Noticed the Stringbike in the current story, but its clear that AWE conceived of UHMWPE transmissions long before on a grander scale, and that such transmissions could power the world.





On Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:45 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  

Romancing the Thread:

the Story of Dyneema®

Story of Dyneema® | Our Story
 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21121 From: dave santos Date: 11/4/2016
Subject: Carbon Nano Kites
Attachments :
    Its striking that the same sort of structures, of the same material (carbon), offers incredible technological promise, from nano-scale to planetary scale. What we are seeing is the science from both scale extremes starting to borrow each other's memes, hence we have been adopting ideas from molecular physics, like "dense arrays", while molecular engineers are adopt the "kite meme".

    Here is an evocative image to show why nano-material scientists hit on the Odako Kite as an analog, although we can see it as more of an NPW :)

    Inline image
    These kites are predicted to help draw out nanotubes of unprecedented length, even as we can see how a cluster of looping foils could twist or braid giant ropes in the sky...



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    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21122 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/4/2016
    Subject: Re: Carbon Nano Kites

    Smalley scientists show astounding nanotube growth with flying carpets, ‘odako’ kites

    By MIKE WILLIAMS
    Rice News staff

    - See more at: Nanotubes take flight

      =======================================


    And:

    Go fly a (humongous) kite: Zama's Odako Matsuri【Photos】

     
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21123 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: Carbon Nano Kites
    相模の大凧

     
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21124 From: dave santos Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Hoffman's AWES concept for NASA Tech Briefs 2010 Contest
    Another public domain AWES design comparable to Altaeros, but with better LTA and kite-principle utilization, consisting of a kytoon over a HAWT, but still not theoretically better than the default open design, of a COTS aerostat optimized for high gas volume, low drag, and lower costs, to lift a HAWT, as Oberth and others long proposed-
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21125 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: Laddermill page addition
    Thanks to PierreB for refreshing a set of Laddermill (Ockels, et al) links: 

    =========
    DECEMBER 2010 Leonardo Times:  POWER FROM THE SKIES
    A. de Wachter: "Power from the skies - Laddermill takes Airborne Wind Energy to new heights". Leonardo Times - Journal of the Society of Aerospace Engineering Students 'Leonardo da Vinci', No. 4, pp. 18-20, 2010. PDF

    ===== and
    Wind-driven driving apparatus employing kites
    US 6072245 A    Wubbo Johannes Ockels       [[RIP]]

    ==== and

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    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21126 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: Hoffman's AWES concept for NASA Tech Briefs 2010 Contest
    PierreB noticed Peter Hoffman in Pierre's patent
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21127 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Dual Mode Portable Charger US 20080272733 A1

    Hold this high in a kite system's tether-set realm or wing-set realm:

     

    Dual Mode Portable Charger  
    US 20080272733 A1

    ==============================


    This patent was mentioned by PierreB

    in his patent's body text. 
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21128 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: Minesto news

    Turbines under water: Technical progress report on Minesto

    November 4, 2016 Paul Dvorak

     
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21129 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: Uwe Fechner
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21130 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Bulletin of Atomic Scientist
    OPINION
    13 JANUARY 2016

    ==

    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21131 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Makani video circa 2010

    Why Design Now?: M10 Kite-Power System

    Cooper Hewitt 

    23,972 views

    Uploaded on Apr 23, 2010


    Why Design Now?: M10 Kite-Power System
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21132 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Low-Altitude Energy Kite Systems (LAEKS)

    Low-Altitude Energy Kite Systems  (LAEKS)

    ====================================


    The huge thrust in AWE has been high-altitude energy kite systems. 

    Yet there may be a world of potential service opportunity in low-altitude energy kite systems (LAEKS),

    This topic thread invites discussion of LAEKS. 


     When branches of LAEKS are identified, then consider starting new topic threads to feature each branch. 


    Allow exploration of both standard and non-standard energy kite systems. Allow energy kite systems that are within the J-Model for Kite or also EKSs within other models for kite systems. 


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    "Low" and "high" are subjective terms yet. Opinions and needs vary. Note that the realm of "no-rigid tower" tether-based kite systems, there are energy kite systems that fly at altitudes even less than one inch above ground.  Some may want to declare "low" as less than the top height reached by conventional contemporary rigid-towered three-bladed wind turbines.   No one has proven that EKSs could not compete well against the towered turbines within the altitudes used by towered turbines.    Tethering may bring solutions in low altitude that may surprise people; high may not be the only way to go; low space is something in itself for consideration.


    In "low" realm, the tethers may be low or short, depending on the system design. 

    In "low" realm, airspace volume may be small or large, but vertical intrusion is less than high realm-EKS. 

    In "low" realm there may be a multiplicity opportunity that may be difficult in the "high" realm. 

    In "low" realm there may be a greater opportunity to use non-standard EKS; consider non-standard EKSs that specialize in mining really messy winds; consider non-standard EKSs that explore tethered tightly-stretched wings where oscillations in the wing body sends changes in tether tension for mining those changes. 

    In "low" realm launching and landing operations might be with less costs than those involving HAWES (high-altitude wind-energy systems).   


    Posters may expand the preamble to set the scene. 
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21133 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: An estimate about Scotland

    An estimate about Scotland by Avery Thompson:


    Article: 

    Scotland Will Soon Be Running on Kite Power

    A new kite-driven power plant could produce hundreds of megawatts by 2025.

    By Avery Thompson - Popular Mechanics

     

    Oct 7, 2016 
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21134 From: dave santos Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: An estimate about Scotland
    After a decade of growing AWE public awareness, we are seeing a major new shift in narrative. The early narratives, unduly driven by premature marketing hype, presented AWE feasibility as a sort of surprise possibility. Recent narratives, like this one, present AWE as more of a definite reality, with questions shifting from "what?" to "who?". We still have a long way to go before AWE really powers Scotland and the World, but the most knowledgeable developers never doubted we would get there eventually. The next phase of public AWE awareness will likely note high-profile failures in the broad race by many talented teams, and the question of just whose architectures have the most promise will likely converge on a "new" set of perceived lead players. A key development will be an ever larger pool of domain expertise sorting through rapidly growing art, vetting failures, and building informed awareness.


    On Saturday, November 5, 2016 8:53 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
    An estimate about Scotland by Avery Thompson:

    Article: 

    Scotland Will Soon Be Running on Kite Power

    A new kite-driven power plant could produce hundreds of megawatts by 2025.
    By Avery Thompson - Popular Mechanics
     
    Oct 7, 2016 
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21135 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: J-Model for Kite

    J-Model for Kite


    An energy kite system is a kite in the J-Model for Kite. 

    In said model. one finds wing sets; one of the wing sets (tether set) couples tensionally the other wing sets. Globally one has three wing sets; two of the wing sets oppose each other to bring tension in the tether set (a special type of wing set). 


    Some incomplete preambles about the J-Model for Kite are in former messages. 


    This topic thread may clarify, extend, and illustrate the J-Model for Kite. 


    The author of the title for the model holds "J" to recall to him a private realm with primary and secondary poetic meanings, but certainly not his own name. Users of the model may hold their own meanings for the "J"  part of the model's title. 


    In time, I will contribute some illustrations.   Others are welcome to exercise their artistic hand. 


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    This illustration has the "kite" with parts; one of the parts of the kite is the Earth. The "kite" is the sum of the parts: wings.  Some readers will be invited to stretch to see the Earth as part of a wing of a "kite." in this illustration.   The illustration rehearses within the J-Model for Kite. 


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    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21136 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/5/2016
    Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite
    In the following illustration of "kite" in the J-Model for Kite:
     One of the three wings is a boy complex (boy, clothes, shoes, socks, tie, boy hair, string reel).
    The tether set (a wing set) is of count one.  The wing opposing
    the lower boy-complex wing seems to be a covered two-stick wing which wing has a tail part.
    The illustrated "kite" is in FFAWE mode.  In this "kite" the Earth is not part of the kite; the tension in the tether "wing" is maintained by the net dynamics of the other two wings (boy complex and the covered tailed two-stick complex). 

    Notice that the wings have parts. Feel free to add other parts; but the sum is still "kite."
    PTO (power take off) means may be varied; but the parts that may be added to vary PTO are still parts of the global "kite." Every "kite" is an energy-kite system; some "kites" use the converted energy in various ways; designers of "kites" may highly specialized PTO parts to achieve highly purposed or specially directed energy to face very particular loads (say, electricity for facing the loads of a utility grid).  Loads envisioned for being served by "kites" are as multitudinous as designers wish.  
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21138 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
    Subject: Re: Photo - Google Photos; Stretch Kites
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21139 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
    Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite
    See:  http://www.powerkitesdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/hq-trainer-kite-hq-hydra-2.jpg
    Examine the total machine in the linked photograph. 
    Identify the system as a "kite" operating in two media at once: air and water. 
    Identify the tether set (special type of wing). 
    Identify the air-based upper wing coupling via the tether set with the mainly-water-based lower wing. 
    The lower "wing" has parts: control bar, human body, clothes, and perhaps a hidden-from-image board. 
    Together the three wing sets fulfill the machine "kite" in the J-Model for Kite.  

    The "wing" called tether has a dynamic interaction with the air media. There seems to be three tethers in the tether set of the shown "kite" system.  

    In the subject image of a "kite" system, the media of water and media of air are held as parts of the total Earth system.  The "kite" system moves relative to the two media and relative to center point of the Earth. The motion is as a result of converting kinetic energy of wind and water currents by judicious control of the three wings of the "kite".  Wing 1: canopy wing.  Wing 2: tethers between Wing 1 and Wing 3.   Wing 3: Human, clothes, bar, perhaps board.     One would be free to modify the shown "kite" by adding parts or subtracting parts; one might add a electric generator and turbine on the board or on the canopy wing or on the tether wing; but even before such adding of parts, the shown ":kite" system already is producing sound, heat, electricity, deformation of parts, ... It is up to designers and users to decide the practical value of produced energies. If sound is preferred, then modifications to the "kite" may be made so that sound quantity, texture, pattern, frequency, intensity, etc. results as wanted.  If generation of electricity is foremost in a user' mind, then the shown "kite" system may be modified to produce more electricity.   The mods result in a new "kite" holding the mechanical modifications intended. 

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    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21140 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
    Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite
    Some pause and meditation over a "kite's" "tethers" which in the J-Model for Kite are wings that couple tensionally other wings of the "kite" system.  For short, one may speak of the kite's tethers or just the tethers of the kite. 

    One preamble to this pause on the wing set that has tethers as members is to explore what has historically been done with tethers in kite systems.  A twisted-stranded cord is different from a round cross sectioned piano wire. A long-flagged cord is different from just the cord itself; or using just a long flag without a cord would be different also. A quite rigid long rod for a tether would be different from a collection of hundreds of fibers encased in a sheath of film plastic. Symmetrical teardrop cross-section tether would be different from asymmetrical Clark-Y cross-section tether. 

    Tethers may have many shapes, surface textures, interior design, mass distribution in cross-section, scheduled interior or exterior holdings, secondary purposes, tertiary purposes, encrusted parts for special activity, ... A tether part of "kite" might transport liquids, solids, gases. Or a tether may conduct electricity for various loads in the :"kite" or for loads exterior of the "kite."   In forum Santos placed a long list of types of line that may be tethers.  And we are collecting tether-line matters in Line encyclopedia for kite systems, airborne wind energy systems

     


    A tether might be rotating ribbon wing set to have resultant lift be left of apparent wind on itself or right of apparent wind on itself.    A tether might be mostly a FlipWing (TM) or mostly a set of Sharp Rotor Wings. 
    A tether of a "kite" might be saturated with sound whistles.   A tether might be saturated with special sensors. 

    A tether part of "kite" may be short or long. 

    A human body might find itself as tether in a kite system.  Notice that in the J-Model for Kite, a tether of the "kite" is termed a wing of special duty.  If a human becomes tether wing in a "kite", one may examine whether the human has tether as paramount role or perhaps as a non-tether wing as paramount role; both roles may occur at once like a FlipWing embedded in a tether between two other wings of the "kite."

    The vast AWES opportunities that might unfold from exploring the fullness of the tether realm are invited to the forum.  
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21141 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/6/2016
    Subject: Two patents by John D. Bellacera

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    John D. Bellacera

    Two patents in kite-control systems.

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    Kite control systems

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    Kite control systems
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21142 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/7/2016
    Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite
    Examining an ad in 1887, there seems to have been a tease or tension about "complete" where the system was not "complete" without the parts string and reel with handle.  This is a kind of seed for generating the J-Model for Kite.  Machines like to be complete; absent an essential part and an intended machine no longer is the machine intended. 

    http://www.energykitesystems.net/Models/J/CrandallsSunKite1887adComment.png

     

    Selchow & Righter  ?   Selchow and Righter - Wikipedia

     

    "ascends or descends"
    Notice that in the machine "kite" both "ascending" or "descending" were respected; AWES may mine the changing involved between the ascending and descending; similarly the orientation is seen now as motions in any direction followed by motion in some other direction, even in and out changes.   Notice too that parts of the "kite" like its tether or tail or anchor (say, reel or more) may each have a motion history during the machine being a "kite."  Those motions may be PTO seeds or practical-service opportunities (PSO). 
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21143 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/7/2016
    Subject: Closed loop experiment on indoors carousel

    A work in progress video of closed loop kite experiments with NMPC and MHE

    Video published on Nov 23, 2014. 

    More info:   Highwind

     
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 21144 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 11/7/2016
    Subject: Re: J-Model for Kite
    A quote from HighWind text: 
    "and to keep these “wings” flying in a fast crosswind direction only with help of automatic control and a strong cable that is anchored upwind at the ground. Power can be extracted either via a pumping cycle or  small inverse propellers on board."

    The global machine in their focus was a kite system, a machine. That machine has "wings" flying fast crosswind direction. But notice that "cable" is also flying crosswind at the time the upper wing is flying. But notice that the global machine (a kite system) does not make itself present without that mentioned "anchored upwind at the ground" arrangement; that anchor complex is an essential part of the global machine.  The machine "kite" then required the "wings", "cable", and anchor complex which included the ground.  Three special sets; one set couples the other two sets.   The J-Model for Kite massages the anchor complex as a special type of "wing"; such is done to respect the wider opportunities of function in "kite" as regards service potentials and energy-production potentials; anchors oppose the far other wings in the "kite".  Ship hulls, paravanes, kited sailplanes (Kramer), FFAWE devices, etc. show that anchors are wings; in the J-Model, it is let that any kite's part called anchor is a "wing." With such perspective, designers may explore more freely tether-coupled wings as "kite" to find PTO means to serve practical needs. 

    In general the fixedness of anchors need not stay so fixed. And functional fixedness over involved cables and anchor parts may be broken to let flow development of new AWES opportunities.